UP TRAVELING INTERGROUP

 

 

L’ANSE

MEETING MINUTES for 07-10-10

Meeting called to order by Kay at 5:00 PM. Opened with a moment of silence followed by The Serenity Prayer.

ATTENDEES: Kay, Jim, Jeff, Gary, Clifford, Tom, Gordon, Bruce Jen, Joanne, Roy, Ken, Randy, Bill, Randy, Marty, Torv, Gary, Jim, Brian, Marion, Joe, Mark, Dawn = 24!

MINUTES: Last months minutes from Manistique Intergroup on June 12th, 2010 were read by secretary.

2011 INTERGROUP BIDS:

Bids already in for 2011:

JANUARY ____________________

FEBRUARY:   Palmer

MARCH:   Delta County

APRIL:   Iron Mt. / Kingsford

MAY:   Copper Country / South Range

JUNE:   Manistique

JULY:   L’Anse

AUGUST:  Ontonagon

SEPTEMBER:  Crystal Falls / Iron Mt. / Amasa (?)

OCTOBER:  Newberry

NOVEMBER:  Ishpeming

DECEMBER:  Marquette

Intergroup bids for 2011 will be finalized in August, 2010.

If possible please have the actual Saturday date by December to put our calendar together!

GSR REPORTS / UPDATES:

Gary – Gwinn: Tue. & Thur. Meeting are picking up. Friday group is sporadic, still a lot of people on vacation, lots of new people in the meetings.

Clifford - Newberry/McMillian: Numbers are fluctuating a lot this summer, overall groups are doing well.

Gordon – Copper Country: We can’t get people to make coffee, how are we suppose to get GSR’s? So Hang around long enough. Outside of that things are pretty good around there, 100-150 overall members with about 10 doing the service work.

Brian –Marquette: We do cater to the treatment center, 20-30 on a regular basis. Traditional meeting reading from the Big Book. 1st Friday of every month open speaker meeting. We try to carry the message, not the member. * I’ll keep doing what I’m doing because I like what I get!

Bruce – This new PA system is great! Our beginners meeting is self supporting & a great success! This all comes from the suggestions from these meetings THANKS!

Jen – Grandville: Going good

Joanne – Amasa: Drawing in more all the time, core group 6-7.

Roy – Ishpeming: Morning meeting good core group, dedicated people help.

Ken – Dist. 8: Visiting all meetings in our area, all are contributing to dist.

Gary – Ishpeming: Tuesday group is 29 years old. Numbers fluctuate through the years with a 30 year coffee maker.

Dawn – Grand Marais: Great core group, some summer visitors

Jim – L’Anse: 10-15 @ both meetings w/a good mix & $ contributing from all 7 groups

Marion – Norway: #’s fluctuate in groups from 10-15

Tom – Newberry Corrections: Going well

Torv – co editor NOW & THEN: Ontonagon: meeting #’s are good. Talked about Fall Conference. AA 75 year Calibration in San Antonio was great, over 55,000!

Joe – Skanee: No alcoholics in Skanee, all come in from out of town!

Kay – Dist.16 DCM: Overall meetings are good. Will try to free up some time to visit all the meetings in Dist. 16. Brought up @ GRS meeting Tuesday SPONSORSHIP! This will get newcomers involved = staying sober.

Mark – Marquette Corrections: Thank you, so grateful for all the meetings.

OPEN DISCUSSION:

Marty – Committee Chairman Area74: Talked about Conferences & Assemblies, handed out Steves card Steve Hildeman Delegate Area 74 Panel 60

2400 Palisades Dr.

Appleton, MI 54915

srhildy@ix.netcom.com

(920) 739-1977 H

(920) 810-6751 C

This is a n excellent meeting

Great Corrections meeting @ 4 PM

GSR’s are to speak for the groups

Get to Assemblies if you can

Great Delegates Workshop in Marquette

Assembly minutes are available (Steve)

A few sets of Area 74 guild lines available

All is posted in NOW & THEN

If you have something coming up let them know

You guys are doing a great job out there!

Some general discussion:

Assemblies vs. Conferences, how many a year etc…

Bill to Bob "REMEMBER TO KEEP THIS THING SIMPLE"

Carry the message

Try to have Intergroups on the 2nd Saturday of the month if possible

Keep your group informed

Participation

2010 INTERGROUPS:

August 28th GWINN @ VFW Hall

September11th NIAGARA

October 9th NEWBERRY

November13th ISHPEMING

December 4th MARQUETTE

ADJOURNMENT: Kay adjourned the meeting and we ended with the Serenity Prayer.

Note: GSR from next Intergroup will take PA system each month, Thank you!

JUNE MANISTIQUE: No Report

                                               COPPER COUNTRY / SOUTH RANGE

                                                     MEETING MINUTES for 05-22-10

Meeting called to order by Mike G. at 5:00 PM open with a moment of silence followed by The Serenity Prayer. (So many of us we had to move into the fellowship/eating area!)

ATTENDEES: Gordon N, Gary G, Kathy L, Kay A, Jim S, Keith A, Sue R, Roy E, Mike G, Mark V, Gary T, Joe P, Brian, Randy S, Julie C, Kenneth L, Derek T, Dale F, Michael C, Jean P, Charlamaine, Harry S, Bruce L, Ken U, Mark B, Tom C, Larry T, & Dawn M = 28!

MINUTES: Last months minutes from the Iron Mountain/Kingsford Intergroup on April 10, 2010 were read by secretary.

GSR REPORTS / UPDATES:

Bruce L: The Newcomers meeting started in Iron Mountain (Thur 5:30 pm (O) Trinity Methodist Church & is already self supporting through their own contributions! A real success story!!! GREAT JOB BRUCE!!!

Mike G:

Spotty GSR participation around the South Range area, hard to get GSRs & get them to come to meetings.

Looks like we have a good turnout for this Intergroup today!

Jean P: Copper Country Women’s group – steady #’s & growing!

Keith: Same problem with lack of GSR participation in the Hurley WI area.

Gary: Gwinn groups are picking up (changed them from closed to open).

Joe: In Skanee, groups range in #’s from 3 to 18, lots of interest from young people.

Kathy L: Munising

New Friday meeting in Munising started 5-21-10 @ the Presbyterian Church corner of Elm Ave. & Chocolay St. @ 8 PM.

Upcoming Activities in the Gladstone / Escanaba Area Please come and meet your fellow program members in Delta County

May 31:  Memorial Day picnic at 1:30 at the Gladstone Alano Club, 601 Michigan Ave., Gladstone  (pot luck) 

June 5:  Pig Roast at the Delta Drop- in, Escanaba, to celebrate AA's 75th anniversary 

June 8:  Ice Cream social, Delta Alano Club, 8:30 p.m. after the 7:30 meeting 

June 18-20:  Annual campout at Little Bay de Noc Campground, Stonington, with an open meeting and bonfire Sat., June 19. Space for tents, campers, RVs, everyone is welcome.

Jim: Lots of young people coming into the meetings in L'Anse

Dale: Marquette Pig Roast August 14, 2010

Roy: Groups are great in Ishpeming, lots of participation!

Ken: New members all the time in McMillian & Newberry meetings.

Gary: Ishpeming will only host November Intergroup from now on, leaving January 2011 OPEN for BIDS!!!

Area74 Fall Conference in Gladstone, same dates as a Walleye Fishing Tournament so please get your reservations in early for Hotels!

OLD BUSINESS:

Bruce reported on the success of the contributions for the PA system! New system purchased, looks great! Kathy L. will take it from here tonight & give it to the Manistique group for next month. Note: GSR from next Intergroup will take system each month

Motion made & passed to donate the old Traveling Intergroup PA system to NA. (It would have been difficult to dispose of!)

NEW BUSINESS:

Contributions for the PA system exceeded target by $105.00. Motion made & passed to send to New York AA.

OTHER:

Please have your Intergroup bids for 2011 in by June, 2010!

Intergroup bids for 2011 will be finalized in August, 2010.

If possible please have the actual Saturday date by December to put our calendar together!

Bids already in for 2011:

April: Iron Mt./Kingsford

September: Crystal Falls, Iron River, Amasa

November: Ishpeming

October: Newberry

2010 INTERGROUPS: (Please call me with dates for me to email in a.s.a.p. 906-4949-2529, Thanks!)

June 12th      MANISTIQUE

July 10th        L’ANSE @ VFW Hall

August 28th  GWINN @ VFW Hall

September    NIAGARA

October 9th   NEWBERRY

November     ISHPEMING

December    MARQUETTE

ADJOURNMENT: Mike closed with the Serenity Prayer around 5:45 PM.

April 10, 2010                                                                Iron Mtn/Kingsford

Meeting called to order by Bruce L. (DCM) at 5:00 PM with a moment of silence followed by The Serenity Prayer.

Introductions were made by going around the room introducing ourselves. (Along with a sign in sheet to assist the secretary (this one doesn’t type very fast).

ATTENDEES: Gary, Jen, Kim. Clifford, Kathy, Dawn, David, Marion, Mary Jo, Tony, John, Dale, Joanne, Joe, John, Tom, James, Jennifer, Bob and Jeanne = 20!

MINUTES: Last months minutes from the Delta Intergroup on March 6th, 2010 were read by secretary.

GSR REPORTS / UPDATES:

Fall Conference in Gladstone, same dates as a Walleye Fishing Tournament so please get your reservations in early for Hotels!

Spring Conference May 7th through May 9th , 2010 "PRACTICING AA PRINCIPLES – THE PATHWAY TO UNITY" @ the Stoney Creek Inn and Convention Center - Rothschild, WI. Conference contact: Joe S. (715) 355-1986 District 08 - AA

OLD BUSINESS:

Bruce reported on the success of the NEWCOMERS group started. GSR’s from around his area agreed to pay first 6 months rent for the new group, beyond that they will be self supporting through their own contributions!

Can we donate the old Traveling Intergroup PA system? This was discussed at length (Please see New Business).

NEW BUSINESS:

It was discussed and agreed that GSR’s will ask their groups for contributions to purchase a new portable PA system for the Traveling Intergroups use. We agree on $300.00. (Jennifer has a contact with information on a new system that will serve our needs.) Please make your donations to: BRUCE LANGE (INTERGROUP PA SYSTEM) PO Box 415, Iron Mountain, MI 49801.

Was agreed that the old PA system can be donated after the purchase of new system.

OTHER:

Please have your Intergroup bids for 2011 in by June, 2010!

Intergroup bids for 2011 will be finalized in August, 2010.

If possible please have the actual Saturday date by December to put our calendar together!

Bids already in for 2011: April: Iron Mt./Kingsford

October: Newberry

Bruce: April 24th , 2010 districts 09 &17 Service Workshop Topic: Cooperation

9 AM to 3 PM

New Life Christian Fellowship hall

W8050 County Road C

Wausaukee, WI (Located 2 miles West of Wausaukee on County Road C)

8:30 – 9 AM Registration & Fellowship

9 –10:15 Panel #1: Alanon Round Table Discussion

Panel #2: Getting the Word Out

(Regarding Public information & Cooperating with the professional Community)

10:30 AM – Noon AA panel – Cooperation between levels of service

12 – 1 PM Lunch (provided by Districts 09 & 17)

1 – 3 PM Round Table Discussion

For more information call Gloria: 715-324-5569

2010 INTERGROUPS: (Please call me with dates for me to email in a.s.a.p. 906-4949-2529, Thanks!)

May 22nd HOUGHTON (South Range Community Bldg.)

ADJOURNMENT: Bruce closed with the Serenity Prayer around 5:50 PM..

March 6, 2010                                                                                                   DELTA

Meeting was chaired by Mary Jo & began with the Serenity Prayer. In attendance were Kevin J, Ken L, Roy E, Gail B, Jen J, Neil H, Dawn M, Sue, Bob, Jean, Jeanne R., Tony C, Brian, Mark, Jeff, Bill, Jerry, Bruce L, Jacob, Ken, John, Larry, Kathy, Derek, Clifford, Tom C., Jim, Gary, Bill, Brian, & Chris.

Last month’s minutes were read & accepted as read. Bob: Just starting to come back around since being disenfranchised for awhile … He didn’t get drunk, but stopped participating for a bit. Larry: Unfortunately, the Area 74 Assembly is scheduled for the same date as the Iron Mountain/Kingsford Intergroup. Sometimes these things happen & people just need to pick their event. Neil: Having sober options is nice. Maybe put together a Master Calendar that would help keep things ordered. Kevin: It’s tough to keep track when the Area changes dates on us. Ken: Note all these people (32 ... count ‘em … 32 GSRs!!! A new record!) … He’s hoping when October rolls around that they get this many in Newberry. Jim: His district’s GSR meeting went well last month. Opinions were discussed intelligently with cooperation from all the GSRs. Mary Jo wants to know how the Intergroup bids are now made … Jen: If groups wish to make a bid for a month, they email the Intergroup Secretary (Dawn M. emarx@jamadots.com) before the June Intergroup in Manistique. She will have a list going, & if there are any conflicts with a month, she will get the two people in contact (See Intergroup contact list below) to discuss this between them. If their conflict cannot be resolved, this will be discussed at the August Intergroup, when bids are finalized. The 2010 Intergroup bids: January - Ishpeming, February - Palmer, March - Delta Area, April - Iron Mountain/Kingsford, May - Houghton, June - Manistique, July - L’Anse, August - Gwinn, September - Niagara, Oct - Newberry, November - Ishpeming, December - Marquette  Jerry: The Area Newsletter is the Now & Then which has the dates for all Area affairs. This should be used when scheduling Intergroups or other District/Area functions. Mark: Thanks to all on the Bridging the Gap list. They’ll be instituting it soon.

The most current Intergroup contact numbers follow: (Please email me with any changes in the contact list!) emarx@jamadots.com

Intergroup Contacts:

Crystal Falls/Alpha - Joanne B. 906-367-2036          Ishpeming - Len D. 906-475-6262               Houghton - Andrea J. 906-296-0830 Manistique - Terri C. 906-341-8377    Iron Mountain/Kingsford - Jennifer J. 906-542-7021     Munising - Lyle S. 906-452-5252  Gwinn/Palmer - Sue H. 906-360-6393         Newberry - Ken U. 906-293-9916                             Marquette - Brad V. 906-228-3229 L’Anse/Baraga - Joe P. 906-524-7027       Ontonagon - Pam T. 906-884-6338                            Delta Area - Louie 906-428-1184             Niagara - Kevin J. 906-221-6288

There’s a Delegate’s Workshop on the 13th of March, 8:30 AM EST, United Methodist Church in Marquette (Ridge Street). … This is when the Area committee chairs will meet with the GSRs & the GSRs can give their input. If you are a GSR & NOT getting the Now & Then, email Torv (torv@jamadots.com). The meeting ended with the Our Father.

2010 Intergroups:

Ø Saturday, April 10th, - Iron Mountain/Kingsford, Knights of Columbus Hall, Kingsford, 4, 5, 6, 7, Dance to follow, All times EST.

 FEBRUARY 6, 2010                                             PALMER

Meeting was chaired by Sue H. & began with the Serenity Prayer. In attendance were Gary T, Sue H, Ken L., Jen J., Clifford, Surf, Brian, Mary Jo J., Joanne B., Bruce L., Carol H., Kelvin, Bill J., Larry, Rob, Jen, John L., Dawn M., Kathy, Roy, Ken (“The Finnish Genius”), Mark, Jim, Paul P., Kathy, Derek, Bridget, Kay (“as in K-Y-Jelly”), & Jim.

Brian: Marquette meetings seem to be doing well. Larry has been getting complaints about meetings listed on the webpage that are non-existent. He thinks they have that problem licked. Sue H: Discussing the purpose of the GSR meetings at the Traveling Intergroups: In the beginning there was no dinner, there were no speakers, no dance & they’d (The GSRs) just get together to talk about their district’s meetings to keep the communication going & meet face-to-face. This is a set-up unique to the U.P., & Sue hopes that the Intergroup GSR meetings continue to stay simple. Jim: Likes the way the meeting has started, since in the past too much time has been spent on unimportant stuff. He sent around an agenda that may be the best thing to put in place to keep the focus on the topic. Ken: Agrees completely. Mark has been invited to give a small report on “Bridging the Gap”, which should probably be discussed at the Corrections meeting. Gary (Surf): Agrees with the agenda idea. He remembers talking about the primary purpose … How are we carrying the message? Bruce: Would like to talk about starting a “First-Three-Steps” meeting in his district (17). He’s wondering if this could be district supported, temporarily….since they can’t be self-supporting to begin with. Can the district do this as an outreach to the beginner (read: Often court-ordered?) Can other group’s donations be used to start this meeting? Larry: That sort of thing has been going on in Marquette Area for almost ten years now. It’s an Open meeting, everyone is welcome. Jen: Each group is autonomous … it should go back to the groups & they should vote on the idea. Carol: Yes. Get a group conscience. Kathy: Why do they want to start this meeting? Is it because too many old-timers don’t want the court-appointed people there? Bruce: Not really … It’d be more like an open meeting that focuses on the first three steps…Sounds like it should go back to the groups. Gary: In 1976 he was given a Big Book, but wasn’t ready to quit drinking. His feeling is that the steps are suggested progress that should be worked with a sponsor. It’s tough in Gwinn since the old-timers tend to sometimes be over-whelming. Paul: Only two groups in Michigamee & court-ordered folks have to attend one or the other. They do go over the first few steps & they always go through the basics. Mark: To clear up … he used to go to a beginners meeting in Marquette on a regular basis. Their success is in that it’s an Open Meeting, but run like AA. Family is welcome …not seminar-like or workshop-based. Jim: Sees no problem with the district financing as long as the groups agree. He thinks it’s a great idea. As far as the “old-timers”, there are too many “Bleeding Deacons”. They need to remember where they came from. Ron: Old-timers meeting run by new-comers. Mark: How do your groups handle the “Bleeding Deacon” (Reference from the 12X12): They want to run the AA meetings the way they’ve always been run. Gary: Discussing the financial breakdown … The group is saying that they should send a set amount to GSO, Area, & District (10-30-60). Ken: AA started with the groups … should take care of the group FIRST … then district… then Area…then GSO. But only if there’s enough money left over, it can be sent to the Area & GSO. Jim: Groups come first. Should have enough for operating expenses & a prudent reserve. (6 months operating expenses). Larry: Reminds ALL GSRs … There’s a Delegate’s Workshop on the 13th of March, 8:30 AM EST, United Methodist Church in Marquette (Ridge Street). … This is when the Area committee chairs will meet with the GSRs & give their input.

If you are a GSR & NOT getting the Now & Then, email Torv (torv@jamadots.com). The meeting ended with Serenity Prayer.

2010 Intergroups:

Ø Saturday, March 6th, - Delta Area - Memorial United Methodist Church, 1920 Lake Shore Drive, Gladstone, 4, 5, 6, 7, Then 9:00 PM Dance at the Delta Alano Club (601 Michigan Ave., Gladstone) All times EST.

Ø Saturday, April 10th, - Iron Mountain/Kingsford, Knights of Columbus Hall, Kingsford, 4, 5, 6, 7, Then 9:00 PM Dance, All times EST.

Ø May - Houghton, June - Manistique, July - L’Anse, August - Gwinn, September - Niagara, October - Newberry, November - Ishpeming, December - Marquette s

  January 9, 2010                                                                            Ishpeming

Meeting was chaired by Ken & began with the Serenity Prayer.  In attendance were James B., Jeanne R., Ken, Len D., Mary Jo, Dawn, Kathy, Bill, Jim, Bruce L., Jen J., Jill M., Jimmy, John, Roy, Kevin, Brian, Paul, Kathy, & Chris. Last months minutes were read … Ken: one correction: “…150-200 inmates will be coming out of Marquette (released) each year. Mark would like to get a list of (regular AA members) to volunteer to get them to their first meeting & connected to the recovering community.

Roy: There is an on-line registry for inmates coming out of prison so they can be checked out (kind of like a sex-offender registry). Jimmy: concerned about sex-offenders. Ken: need to use common sense. Like any other twelve step call, shouldn’t go on it alone. Chris: Who’s running this program? Mark from the Marquette area (markmqt@yahoo.com) & Ken (aharleyrider54@yahoo.com) are gathering volunteer names. Jim: at the Fall Assembly there was a vote to form a new committee for this & it was voted down. James: Suggested that each district send a letter to Mark (“Dear parolee”…) which has a meeting list with phone numbers. Len: each district is autonomous, so they can do what they want, but this really isn’t how the “Bridging the Gap” program is set up. It’s a U.P. wide program in which the parolee (prison) gets a hold of Mark who will set him up with an AA contact (gives the AA member the parolee’s number) only if they’re interested in going to AA. Jim: So Mark contacts the volunteer & gives the volunteer the parolee’s name & number. Jeanne: The volunteer’s ONLY responsibility is to get the parolee to their first meeting on the outside. Len: That raises a problem … Where am I being responsible to AA? Bruce: He’s also confused … In his mind, the person getting paroled first comes home, then gets in contact with the parole officer. Then what? Jill: While living in Vermont, was contacted to get the parolee to his meeting, but was never contacted again. Mary Jo does a jail meeting & has offered her services to get them to meetings when they’re released, but has never been contacted. Ken: It’s just to get the parolee to their first meeting … THAT’S it. Kevin: Is confused by Len’s confusion … What “guidelines” is he talking about? Guidelines for AA or guidelines for “Bridging the Gap”? It’s really up to the individual how much he/she does for the parolee. Dawn: What she understands is that your name goes on the list, ONLY IF YOU WANT … & that’s that! Keep it simple, people.

Jen: Gloria O. is the new alternate DCM for district 9. They’re doing an educational panel/service workshop (New Hope Christian Fellowship in Wausaukee) Saturday, April 24, 2010 (9 AM-3PM), & will be doing this in cooperation with district 17. (Their theme is “Cooperation.”) Please remember this date, & more information will follow.

Remember the Delegate’s Workshop beginning at 8-9 AM on March 13th, 1st United Methodist Church, 111 East Ridge St, Marquette. PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS FOR ALL AREA GSRS!!! ($7.50) The new delegate is Steve H. from the Appleton area, & he needs input from the Area’s AA members. He’ll ask us for our input on the questions that will be covered in the General Service Conference.

Secretary for the Area wants a list of all new GSRs in our Area. Len: We need to make sure all the GSRs are getting the Now & Then. If not, email Torv (torv@jamadots.com). The meeting ended with The Our Father.

December 5, 2009                                                                                     Marquette

Meeting was chaired by Ken L & began with the Serenity Prayer. In attendance were James B., Marion H., Jeanne R., Ken, Mark, Bob S., Tom C., Ken L., John, Gail, Len D., three Jims, Joe, Joan, Bridgette, Rachel, Dave, Derek, Roy, Bruce L., Kevin, Jen J., & Calvin.

Jim: Had a District 20 GSR meeting on the 15 at least 75% of the groups now have GSRs so the district is doing pretty well. Prison people include Ken & Jim. Len: Are there any Munising people here? Jim knows that Kathy P. is the alternate DCM but will probably end up being DCM. Jeanne: The district map shows that Munising is in district 19 but some of the meetings are in 19 & some are in 20. Jeanne suggests that they register as part of district 20. Jim has invited Manistique & Munising to the District meetings just so they get active again. Len: The Area delegate’s workshop is planned for March 13. However, Len mentioned that last month it was talked about having a service workshop. Jen & James: Maybe we could hold this in April in Iron Mountain, before the IM/Kingsford Intergroup? Dates for Fall Conference are scheduled for the second weekend in September (Delta Area). We need to contact Kevin J. to schedule Niagara’s Intergroup around the Fall Conference. Mark - District correction chair for District 18 (Larry is the Area Corrections chair)… They are planning to re-institute the Bridge the Gap program … 150-200 inmates will be coming out of Marquette (released) each year. Mark would like to get a list of GSRs to volunteer to get them to their first meeting & connected to the recovering community. He requests a list of volunteers from each district to help with Bridging the Gap. It won’t be known why these inmates have been in prison. Rachel: How would someone for her group who was interested get on the list? Ken is the new DCM so it would be emailed to his email address (aharleyrider54@yahoo.com) James: His district has an 0900 number with volunteer names to call to contact for rides etc. Bruce: James as the PI person has a pamphlet for court-ordered people to introduce them to AA. Mark (Markmqt@yahoo.com): This is for males & females … The idea is to get these people to their first meeting ... Many of them are afraid … to ask for rides, to ask for meeting lists, etc. The inmate will not have your phone number but will be contacted by you. Jim: Instead of each meeting sending a list, have each district send a list. Mark suggests that each list give a town name to help with getting the people together. Derek: From District 19 originally they had a sign-up form. (Mark has this form). Ken: This is really for AA members who are coming out for jail. Not every prisoner coming out will be going to meetings … only those who may want recovery (or to continue with recovery). Len: We do have a lot of autonomy as this program develops. Mark wants lots of input from the whole U.P. Ken: These contacts should be treated as any other twelve step call, & should never be attended alone. Gail: No one in the meeting would (should) know where the person comes from. That information can be volunteered, but will not be asked about. James B. (PI Iron Mountain): Their district has a packet that contains a letter for patients coming out of treatment or detoxication. The letter has a few numbers for the patient to contact if they are interested in attending AA meetings. This has just started & they are learning as they go. Bruce: James also has a packet for the parole officers so they also have a letter with some numbers to call for twelve step work. Len: There’s a similar program in Marquette County that seems to be working well. Brian: Isn’t the one in Marquette targeted towards misdemeanor cases? Len: Depends on who’s doing it. Len will include felons including life-time sentences. The meeting ended with The Our Father.

NOVEMBER 2009                                                                                          Ishpeming

No Report

October 10, 2009                                                                                                   Newberry

The meeting was opened with the Serenity Prayer at 5:10 PM

Present: Dawn M., Chris P., Gary G., Bruce F., Tom C., Glen F., Len D., Ken U., & Jim S.        

 Question on the table was; where were the servants of AA at the Newberry Intergroup?

 Jim opened the meeting by asking, "How can we improve Intergroup & problems with service in general. He went on to state; "Attending all service meetings is important, if for no other reason than learning something new, plus bringing new people into service (sponsoring) them. This keeps all of us fresh!" Dawn gave us her experiences in Hawaii saying, "Service is offered to everybody at every meeting!" Ken's words of wisdom; "Service allows us to give back,-"

Dawn followed with, "If each GSR gives a report - people like Bruce (a person new to service) would not know they are always invited to all service meetings!”

Dawn shared another Hawaiian experience "stick meetings;" if you show up in Ishpeming at St John’s on November 7th, at 5:00 PM at our next GSR meeting perhaps Dawn will again share her experience. Perhaps we can bring this idea into our monthly Intergroup GSR meetings? Tom stressed the need for more people at our Intergroup GSR meetings. Dawn expressed the need for all DCM's to be at these monthly meetings. The DCM's could then discuss the Intergroup ideas (like the stick meetings) at there District meetings! Chris followed this with a thought; "DCM's and GSR's have huge commitment, sometimes these commitments create problems of meeting our other obligations. This quickly followed with: How do we "educate" our Service people? What’s your sobriety worth? We need better communication in the U.P. Gary ended the GSR meeting with: "We need to bring this meeting to the 'assembly' next weekend at Three Lakes, WI.”

The meeting was closed with the "Our Father" at 6:00PM

 For those not there; they missed as good a talk on recovery through the use of our Big Book as I have heard in a long time. The talk was enjoyed further on the way home by recalling the many things Gary S. from Curtis Mi. said about his "Experience, strength, and hope!!!"

Respectfully submitted by

Len D. 

September 12, 2009                       Crystal Falls/Iron River at Sagola

     Meeting was chaired by Joanne B. In attendance were Bruce L., Ken, Ken L., Paul, Joe, Jim S (DCM district 20), Cliff W. (DCM district 17), Bill, Ken W., Gary, Robert A., Kay, Jen J., & Jerry J.

      Last months’ minutes were read.

     Joe: They have a new DCM (Kay) & a couple of new GSRs. 

     Jerry: We’ve been talking a lot about service work, etc. He feels we should secede from Area 74 & form our own Area. He thinks it would simplify things & be much cheaper than driving all the way to Marshfield or other points in WI for Area meetings. He doesn’t think our current system is working for us. Ken: Feels that would be a great idea. The traveling is getting to him & it’s hard to afford the gas. Bruce: Was reading their “newsletter” which is directed towards Wisconsin. Why is our Area not behind us on the PI stuff? His district (17) has to foot the cost of the Big Books their PI is putting in motels, etc. Why can’t the Area send the literature to disseminate? Kevin: Agrees with Jerry. For years he’s been on all sorts of committees etc. & everyone gets caught up in the complicated B.S. & it seems to be all about $$. Let’s get back to the basics. Are we keeping it simple or getting too darn complicated for our own good? Jerry: Our Intergroup GSR meeting could serve as a service meeting (for our new U.P. Area designation). It would be easier. Joanne: Getting the Big Books etc for our PI is a district problem & the district should be paying the bill … But she agrees that we’re doing fine without the Area. No one can motivate anyone else to get into service. Ken W.: It’s important to think about this. We have to look at ourselves first & clean our own side of the street. Gary: Forming our own Area was discussed once before in the ‘80s … It couldn’t be done because of population or something. The GSO won’t recognize us. He thinks we need to tell the Area how we’re feeling up here … We’re a strong minority & need to make our thoughts heard. Jerry: Committee system messed us up since the committees started meeting at different times & places & the regular alcoholic had no say in what was going on. He feels that we’re small enough that we can represent ourselves. Ken: There was a service workshop prior to an Intergroup a few years back & it worked well. He thinks we should do that again. It would be beneficial. Joe: The “Now & Then” is all business that has NOTHING to do with us. Joe thinks that seceding is a good idea. Joanne: What are we expecting from the Area? Joe expects information. Since many districts up here don’t have a DCM or enough $$ to send them to the assemblies, we’d like to know what’s going on at the assemblies/conferences. Kevin: We should try ASKING the Area for what we need. Jim: It’s important to find out if we’d be recognized if we decided to separate. Also, he feels we need to let the Area know what we want & need. Otherwise they won’t have a clue what we are thinking. Jerry: Our past two Area delegates were from the U.P., so information should have gotten to the Area. The groups are the power (the ultimate authority & autonomous), so Jerry feels that we don’t need the GSO’s approval. The assembly isn’t where we get the information since the committees come to the assembly after they’ve already met & made their decisions. We as individual AA members have no input anymore. Bruce: Like Joe said … he doesn’t feel that he’s getting information that he needs from the Area. We can’t have a say in something if we don’t know what’s going on. Joanne: How do we get Area 74’s attention? Kevin: Through the DCM. Joanne’s been a GSR for two years & has never gotten a “Now & Then”. Ken: Sent in a contribution to the Area with his group number & he got a message back that they had no idea who he was & wanted to put the contribution under another group. Ken can’t afford to travel down to Wisconsin for the assemblies. He feels that something should be done. Kay (acting DCM): She sent Dodie A. an email stating that she needed information & has not heard from her. The Area 74 website is a good reference; however, Jen mentioned that their meeting list is very wrong. (Meetings are listed that haven’t existed for years).

      The meeting adjourned with The Lord’s Prayer.

August 15, 2009                                                                          Gwinn

Meeting was chaired by Jeff.  In attendance were Joe P., Jerry J., Jim S., Kevin J., Bill L., Doris V., Tom C., Ken U. Kathy B., Dawn M., Bruce L., Len D., Tim S., Ken T, Jen J., Gary, John H., Big Al, & Brian M.

 Last months’ minutes were read.

 Len apologizes for not coming to the last Intergroup & wants to correct some misinformation from last month: (“…We send our Area delegate to GSO to vote for us, but they have no idea about our concerns …”) Delegate goes to the General Service Conference … NOT to GSO as was written in the last minutes. The Delegate then instructs the GS Board & after the conference, there’s a meeting to go over the conference reports. The CONFERENCE is the relationship between the GSO & the board.  We DO need to get back to the basics & come to a consensus as to what that is … He went to two meetings with newcomers & no one talked about the steps until he shared. The steps are what keep us together. He doesn’t think most people even know what’s in the Service Manual. People don’t like to go to district meetings because they’re like mini-governments. We need to talk about the steps & stop talking about our “problems” at the meetings. Len: Jerry has been trying to impress upon us the importance of service. At the assembly they decided to have a Service Workshop on the Friday before the Fall Assembly (October 17th in Three Lakes, WI). Brian: Used to be the GSR for Marquette Saturday 9 a.m. underground meeting but stepped down to become GSR for the TGIF group on Fridays. He has mentioned this for months, but no one has stepped up to the plate. The most recent Now & Then has a good article by Dodie on the duties of a GSR. Brian is glad to be part of the service structure. Jerry: Hey, it’s not so bad … He remembers when we had three people at our GSR meetings & look at us now! We have new people & some great enthusiasm. He feels the Area is letting us down … we should be having service workshops closer to home, as was done in the past. We seem to be dropping the ball. Len: If everyone here went to the next assembly, stood up & told them they’re not serving us here in the U.P., it would help. However if we expect a delegate to come talk to us, we’ll have to pay, BUT if anyone comes from the AREA, they’re paid by the AREA. Tom: Only one service workshop that he thought was worth while … that’s the one held in Iron Mountain a few years back. But if we try to hold it during an Intergroup, there’s not enough time … Len thinks there would be plenty of time, if we started early enough. Ken: Aren’t our DCMs supposed to be here? We have two DCMs here … Joe P (alt DCM district 16) & Jim S (district 20). Jim: From Grand Marais …their meetings etc. went to heck for a long while until some really interested people got involved … now they have a really good group which uses the 12X12. Now EVERYONE in their group has a sponsor & it’s really important to them. His sponsor direct from treatment was tough & helped keep him sober. It’s important that people know that the sponsor benefits from the relationship since she/he must study the Big Book to be a good one. Joe: He’s not getting people to volunteer no matter what he does. No one seems to be interested. No one is taking responsibility. Now there are people who want to hold district meeting every two months & not contribute $$ to the District or Area. If we don’t start giving back what’s been given to us, we’re in trouble. We need to get back to “What it was like, what happened, & what it’s like now”. Ken: Did some reading on old AA & they used to take a newcomer through the steps in their first few meetings. It’s not happening now. Dawn: This is just her third Intergroup GSR meeting … When she goes to her meetings, she always discusses a step, her sponsor, the Big Book etc. She’ll be taking her enthusiasm back to her Home Group. Jerry: For some reason, we think we’ve failed if everyone isn’t jumping into service. Remember there is but one ultimate authority & that’s God, as we understand God. Gary: Learned early about the Big Book, Sponsors, etc. Now it seems there are problem with cross addicted, addicts, dual-diagnosed, etc … as long as were talking about AA, who cares? He feels it’s his responsibility to bring things back around to AA when things get off topic.

We went on to new business… Confirming 2010 Intergroup bids … SEE FINAL SCHEDULE BELOW … Kevin: Niagara wants to take the SEPTEMBER Intergroup. Thanks, Niagara.

The meeting adjourned with The Lord’s Prayer.

       July 11, 2009                                                                                           L’Anse

The meeting was chaired by Kay & attended by Cathy, Deb, Ken, Cliff, Bruce, Keith, Neil,  Mary, Tom, Jim, Pete, Dawn, Ken, Joe, Jerry, Pam, & Jen. Last months’ minutes were read & we went on to new business. Discussion topic: For last month …. Questions: What does the Area do for us? How can we get the service structure back to working for us? Do we need to throw out the whole service structure? Pete: Keep it Simple … used to be all business was taken care of at the two assemblies … Simplicity isn’t there. Neil: Committees aren’t working the way they’re supposed to. Is GSO parceling out information… little bits at a time? Neil’s District is struggling as far as service work. Good part of this is the awareness which is getting out to the groups. District 16 is having difficulty get volunteers to be GSRs. How do we stimulate interest? The same people are doing all the work, as usual. Kay attended the conference, enjoyed it, & got lots of good information. Dawn has the pamphlet about GSRs. She can’t believe that there’s not more excitement & interest in the service structure. The GSR represents everyone at the tables & is the voice of the individual group member. Joe: Has been a GSR for the last 16 years & he’s tired of it. He can’t get people to volunteer. Even if people volunteer, they don’t show up to the District meetings. Dawn’s enthusiasm is great … can she pass some on to District 16? Ken (Newberry): Has there been report from the Spring Conference? (Yes … Minutes are in the Now & Then). Ken’s worried about AA meetings not being AA (or related to alcohol) … At times it feels like you’re beating your head against the wall. Another thing that happened: One person was sharing for too long & the chairperson tried to cut her off. He was told he was wrong. Keith: Seems that the younger people aren’t joiners. Many are complacent. They’d rather sit back & not work the steps. When he came into AA his sponsor TOLD him he would be a GSR. Now that won’t happen. Even though the GSR is the core of the group, it’s so hard to get ‘em to volunteer. If it weren’t for the GSRs, our program would fold. Court people leave after they get their papers signed. Suggestion: Dust off the GSR Hand-books & put them on the table. Take hold of the reins & straighten this out. We have a responsibility to sponsor people. Now-a-days, no one wants to sponsor or be sponsored. Dawn: Her solution is to communicate about how AA originally started … she plans to lead by example, so that in two years time someone else will be excited about being a GSR. They’ll want what she has. Kay: Has a pamphlet called “Guide to the Twelve Steps of AA” which helps keep treatment people etc focused & on topic. Neil: Solutions … Last time we talked about getting away from the service structure. When he signs a court paper, he asks them who their sponsor is … Most don’t have a clue what he’s talking about. He’s trying to rectify that. Keep chipping away at getting back to the way it was. Jim: Service manual has the solutions … Pull out your service manual & READ it! He feels the assemblies are more important than the conferences (According to the service manual). Also pay attention to the suggestions for service. (Years of sobriety required etc) He finds it’s difficult to get people to rotate out. Give it up & let someone new do it. Jerry: Are we missing the boat? He feels his responsibility is to carry the message & not worry about the other people. As individuals we must show up & do what we’re supposed to do. As far as the committee structure …. It’s failing due to lack of communication: We send our Area delegate to GSO to vote for us, but they have no idea about our concerns, due to a lack of communication between the delegate, the Districts & the individual meeting’s GSRs. Neil: Bring suggestions to next Intergroup GSR meeting that have worked to get people interested in service. Pam: handed out a survey about using full faces shown in video projects produced by AA. Kay: Carries the message to the hospital & treatment centers. That’s a great way to get the message out. Bruce’s District has a PI (Public Information) person ... His job is to get the word out to the public. That’s what he feels our responsibility is. Now what is the AREA’S responsibility in all this??? The Area should be tying us together. The meeting adjourned with The Responsibility Statement.  We’ll finalize the 2010 Intergroup bids at the August Intergroup in Gwinn … See you there!

 June 13, 2009

MANISTIQUE                                                                                                 

Thanks for a great Intergroup, Manistique!

The meeting was chaired by Bob & attended by Dawn, Ken, Ken, Gary, Gary, Neil, Bruce, Charlemagne, Len, Jeanne, Jerry, & Jen.

 Last months’ minutes were read & we went on to new business.

Discussion topic: Len - Assemblies are generally held in August & April & business is never completed. There is now talk of having a two day assembly. Bruce: He was treasurer for the Spring Conference which was a two day event & ended up costing big bucks! Area business took up lots of time & room (& they still didn’t get it all done), however there wasn’t a report to any of the groups on what happened! Jerry: By-laws for Area were done many years ago & it was decided that no business was to be done at the conferences - all business was to be done at the assemblies. Committees were to be formed to make the whole process more efficient, however it hasn’t worked out that way. Jerry doesn’t see any problem with going back to doing business at the conferences too. Len: We’ve lost sight of what the service structure is all about. He thinks that the committee structure has failed us. It was supposed to streamline things but hasn’t. Len thinks there should be a District Committee System to help the GSRs understand their role in the service structure. Gary: Years ago there were no assemblies - only Spring & Fall Conferences. Then the assemblies were started & made things more complicated. What happened to “Keep it Simple?” He thinks we need to get back to basics, & simplify service structure. Get back to basic AA & carrying the message. Jerry: Committee system took the GSRs right out of the equation. Now the GSRs don’t know what the heck is going on at the Area level. The fancy business stuff has been taken away from us common, ordinary drunks. Bruce: His district used to have a DCM that would go to conferences/assemblies but wouldn’t bring back the info to the District. Bruce hears people in his district asking why we are sending $$ to the Area or the GSO when our district doesn’t get anything from them? Shouldn’t the district be on the mailing list for the Area minutes? (That’d be the “Now & Then”) Area has these business meetings (at the conference, etc) & they’re making decisions for our districts, but we aren’t informed about what’s going on. Neil: The question “What does the Area do for me?” is a good one! He hasn’t found the answer to that yet. He’d like to see the little $$ coming into the groups being spent on getting the message out to the local drunks. Jerry & Gary: Intergroup was started so the GSRs could get together (the GSR meeting IS AA), but the Intergroup itself is NOT AA. Len wants to see us continue this discussion at the next two or three Intergroup GSR meetings. Questions: What does the Area do for us? How can we get the service structure back to working for us? Do we need to throw out the whole service structure? He thinks that when this discussion is brought back to the Area they won’t want to hear it. Ken: When he first started coming to the GSR meetings he was told by an old timer that this group has no power … so he wants to know … then why are we here? He was also told when he started that when a twelve step call comes in, you darn well better go … The meeting adjourned with The Lord's Prayer.

We’ll finalize the 2010 Intergroup bids at the August Intergroup in Gwinn … See you there!

2010 Intergroup bids: January - Ishpeming, February - Palmer, March - Delta Area, April - Iron Mountain/Kingsford, May - Houghton, June - Manistique, July - L’Anse, August - Gwinn, September - OPEN, Oct - Newberry, November - Ishpeming, December - Marquette

2009 Intergroups:

July 11th, 2009 - L’Anse, American Legion Building 4, 5, 6, 7, (EST)         October - Newberry

August 15th, 2009 - Gwinn - VFW, 4, 5, 6, 7, (EST)                                          November - Ishpeming

September - Crystal Falls/Iron River (West District 17)                                 December - Marquette

Intergroup Contacts: (Please email me with any changes in the contact list!) jljezylo@uplogon.com

Crystal Falls/Alpha - Joanne B. 906-367-2036 Ishpeming - Len D. 906-475-6262 Houghton - Andrea J. 906-296-0830 Manistique - Terri C. 906-341-8377

Iron Mountain/Kingsford - Jennifer J. 906-542-7021 Munising - Lyle S. 906-452-5252

Gwinn/Palmer - Sue H. 906-360-6393 Newberry - Ken U. 906-293-9916

Marquette - Brad V. 906-228-3229 L’Anse/Baraga - Joe P. 906-524-7027

Ontonagon - Pam T. 906-884-6338 Delta Area - Louie 906-428-1184